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“Americans” for Hezbollah

Via Memorandum, we get this USA Today story about discrimination against Muslims in America and a Gallup poll showing that many Americans mistrust Muslims. The USA Today article defines discrimination broadly, anything from a rude comment to assault.

And from NPR, a profile of the Lebanese-American community in Dearborn Michigan includes this:

Osama Siblani runs the Arab-American News, America’s largest such newspaper. He says the fighting is fueling anger in his community — not at Hezbollah, but at the Bush administration.

“The anger that you see in the Arab community, you do not see in the eyes of the American community,” says Siblani. “They’re not viewing the same thing. And the perspective you get out of Jazeera or Arabiya, you do not get it out of Fox News or CNN.”

Siblani says many in the community who opposed Hezbollah before the fighting have now changed their minds. The U.S. State Department has designated Hezbollah a terrorist organization. Siblani disagrees.

“The terrorist here is the Bush administration,” he says.

….

Daily protests occur in Dearborn. At one recent demonstration, organized by the Congress of Arab-Americans, about 1,000 people attended. College-age men asked, in call and response fashion, “Who is your army?” Protestors responded: “Hezbollah.” “Who is your leader?” they were asked. “Nasrallah,” the chanters responded. Many carried placards of the Hezbollah leader. A few days earlier at an even larger demonstration, more than 15,000 turned out, about half of Dearborn’s Arab community.

Those who regularly attend the demonstrations tend to be the most strident.

“Oh, Jews, remember Khaibar,” the marchers chant. “The army of the Prophet will return.”

The line is a reference to Khaibar, a Jewish town north of Medina that, according to Islamic tradition, was overtaken by the Prophet Muhammad in the seventh century. Once defeated, the surviving Jews of Khaibar were forced into serfdom. Two decades later, they were expelled from the Arabian peninsula.

Perhaps there’s a connection between these two stories. Such an open demonstration of support for our Islamic terrorist enemies in an American city is chilling. This is not to suggest that all Muslims in America deserve discrimination because a few seditious idiots in Dearborn decide to go out and rally for Hezbollah (Yes, we do question their patriotism. Anyone who cheers for Hezbollah is not a decent, loyal American). But a certain level of mistrust is not completely irrational either, given the battle we’re in. Maybe it would help if more American Muslims spoke out directly against this sort of demonstration. And we sure hope the FBI is there for those daily pep rallies for Hezbollah.



posted by: The Editors @ 7:27 pm August 10, 2006



34 Comments

  1. I hope the FBI was there, putting together the deportation lists.

    /I don’t care if they are Americans.

    Comment by the passionate conservative — August 10, 2006 @ 8:04 pm August 10, 2006


  2. “A few days earlier at an even larger demonstration, more than 15,000 turned out,
    about half of Dearborn’s Arab community.”
    That doesn’t sound like “a few seditious idiots in Dearborn”.
    I believe these contradict each other.

    Comment by Rick F. — August 10, 2006 @ 8:32 pm August 10, 2006


  3. “A few days earlier at an even larger demonstration, more than 15,000 turned out, about half of Dearborn’s Arab community…This is not to suggest that all Muslims in America deserve discrimination because a few seditious idiots in Dearborn decide to go out and rally for Hezbollah (Yes, we do question their patriotism. Anyone who cheers for Hezbollah is not a decent, loyal American).”

    A bit of a cognitive disconnect is evident. If half of the Arab community is marching in support of Hezbollah, how is that a ‘few’ seditious idiots?

    A storm is brewing and Islam is going to reap the whirlwind they are bringing upon themselves.

    Comment by d_Brit — August 10, 2006 @ 8:44 pm August 10, 2006


  4. Americans are naive. We have not fought a foreign invader since the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor (and that was quite a bit remote from the mainland and Dearborn!). It seems many Americans refuse to believe the 9/11 attack was an act of war. Could you imagine the response after Pearl Harbor if hundreds of Japanese assembled in Dearborn and called Americans imperialist pigs? Nah – let’s not go there. Americans can hate Bush, just as I din’t respect Clinton, but come on, we are Americans and we have a great free nation. We need to stand up and support our nation, no matter who is President and we need to fight back radical Islam and not be tolerant of the views that are antithecal to our great nation’s values. Otherwise, we are doomed.

    Comment by John Bolders — August 10, 2006 @ 8:46 pm August 10, 2006


  5. “Maybe it would help if more American Muslims spoke out directly against this sort of demonstration. And we sure hope the FBI is there for those daily pep rallies for Hezbollah.”

    Yes, you can’t go on and on about how peaceful and tolerant your “religion” supposedly is and then never ever speak out against the mayhem carried out in its name…

    As to your second wish (the sitting and watching by the FBI), you mean like Scotland Yard did/does in… Londonistan ?

    Comment by jc durbant — August 10, 2006 @ 8:51 pm August 10, 2006


  6. American anger is growing against people like Osama Siblani and Arab-American News for thier hate speach and attitudes. People like me will meet people like him on the battle field; he siding with the Terrorist Hezbollah that murdered Americans as they slept while on a peace mission in Lebanon, that murdered Americans on hijacked aircraft in cold blood,and I for Israel. I am of Irish and English blood but this war is not about that but rather it is about which way of life will survive; Western Civilization or the civilization in the Middle East under the radical Mullahs that scream “Death to all Infidels.” I am ready, let it begin.

    Comment by Rocky Latham — August 10, 2006 @ 9:03 pm August 10, 2006


  7. …we have to stop all muslim immigration, until this islamic Jihad is over

    I am not worried about potential terrorist attacks in the USA

    I am afraid of their increasing numbers gaining influence in politics and policy

    Comment by charleston — August 10, 2006 @ 9:30 pm August 10, 2006


  8. We ought to deport any Muslim in a rally for Hezbollah, as the goal of
    Hezbollah and the Islamofascists is to control not just Israel, but all of the West
    and make us either convert to Islam or be “dhimmi,” non-Muslims who
    have to submit to Islamic Sharia law….goodbye U.S. Constitution!

    What the idiots who voted for Lamont in Connecticut don’t get
    is the Lieberman wasn’t “pro-Bush,” he was pro-AMERICAN when it came
    to defending our country! What you want to bet if the election were
    held today, Lieberman would win?

    I hope CAIR keeps whining and the Muslims keep marching and praising
    Nasrallah…it will expose them for what they really are…fifth columnitsts
    in our midst!

    Comment by james robertson — August 10, 2006 @ 9:35 pm August 10, 2006


  9. “Who is your leader?” they were asked. “Nasrallah,” the chanters responded.

    Why are these idiots allowed to stay in this country??

    Comment by McJenny — August 10, 2006 @ 9:47 pm August 10, 2006


  10. Osama Siblani is exactly the kind of person who came here NOT to be an American (those kind of immigrants are now sadly far and few between). He is the kind who came to destroy all that America ever was, and to replace it with Islamic rule and governance.

    He and his kind will NOT prevail.

    Comment by M. Zwiker — August 10, 2006 @ 9:47 pm August 10, 2006


  11. The war we face is against Islamofacism. The war we face is not against terrorism – for terrorism is a tactic of Islamofacism, like the blitzskcreig was a tactic of the Nazi’s in WW II .

    Islamofacism definition from Wikepedia:

    1) Islamofascism is a neologism (a new word usage) and political epithet (a characterization) used to compare the ideological or operational characteristics of certain modern Islamist movements with European fascist (a centrallized disctatorship) movements of the early 20th century, neofascist movements, or totalitarianism.

    2) Organizations that have been labeled Islamofascist include Al-Qaeda, the current Iranian government,[1] the Taliban, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and Hezbollah.

    3) Critics of the term argue that associating the religion of Islam with fascism is both offensive and historically inaccurate.

    The world wide Islamic movement, although divided into warring sects (Shiia, Sunni, Wahabbi) unite in the emotional call of God manifested against Israel and the United States.

    Islamofacism has become a term to describe this manifestation.

    This manifestation has remarkable historic Scriptural foundations (Gen 17:20.21) and a further remarkable coorroboration of Biblical prophesy with events occuring today. (Psalm 83;Ezekiel 37,38; Daniel)

    The following reveals the basis for understanding the relgio/cultural manifestation that differentiates the Islamic East from the Judeo/Christian West.

    From: N6817VIC@aol.com
    Date: Wed, July 26, 2006

    Can a good Muslim be a good American?

    I forwarded that question to a friend that worked in Saudi Arabia
    for 20 years.

    The following is his forwarded reply:

    Theologically – no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon
    God of Arabia.

    Religiously – no. Because no other religion is accepted by his
    Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

    Scripturally – no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars
    of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

    Geographically – no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which
    he turns in prayer five times a day.

    Socially – no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to
    make friends with Christians or Jews.

    Politically – no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual
    leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America,
    the great Satan.

    Domestically – no. Because he is instructed to marry four women
    and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

    Intellectually – no. Because he cannot accept the American
    Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the
    Bible to be corrupt.

    Philosophically – no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do
    not allow freedom of religion and _expression. Democracy and Islam
    cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or
    autocratic.

    Spiritually – no. Because when we declare “one nation under God,”
    the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to
    as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran’s 99
    excellent names.

    Therefore after much study and deliberation….perhaps we should
    be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.

    They obviously cannot be both “good” Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish….it’s still the truth.

    If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above
    statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends.

    The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.

    Pass it on Fellow Americans.

    The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.

    Comment by Otis Page — August 11, 2006 @ 1:38 am August 11, 2006


  12. “This is not to suggest that all Muslims in America deserve discrimination because a few seditious idiots in Dearborn decide to go out and rally for Hezbollah.”

    This is why I often despair. Many who acknowledge that most conflicts in the world are caused by Muslims; even with the current and ongoing evidence of what happens to infidels after Muslims take over a nation (even if they initially used ‘peaceful’ means.) People like yourself still think that there is such a thing as a “moderate” Muslim.

    Google: Al-Taqyyia.

    The only difference between the outcome of moderate and militant Muslim policies and teachings is a small matter of timing. The results are always the same, not only historically but in the present.

    It is not a mere matter of “discrimination. It is a matter of threat assessment and of personal survival. Unless Americans learn to fully identify the threat – and the long term consequences of ignoring the threat – the end result will be nothing but death and destruction for us all. Those who survive will be enslaved or become second class citizens at best, and subject to rape, torture and death at the whim of any Muslim believer.

    Comment by Warren Bonestel — August 11, 2006 @ 1:52 am August 11, 2006


  13. I am hoping that the remaining women and children in South Lebanon are the families of the Hezbollah fighters. Although they are ‘innocent’ in that they may carry no weapons they still comfort the enemy Hezbollah by their very presence and are therefore legitimate targets, though with regret. We will not count their bodies in the total number of Killed Enemy fighters as we like to keep the ratio of dead maniacs to dead Israelis to about 100 to 1. Counting the dead maniac’s family members would distort the ratio.
    Posted by DCWonk47 at 04:27 AM : Aug 11, 2006

    Comment by Dan Rio — August 11, 2006 @ 1:55 am August 11, 2006


  14. You must be joking?? Someone deport these idiots………

    Comment by sean nicholson — August 11, 2006 @ 2:54 am August 11, 2006


  15. You probably won’t print this, but I know my views are shared by many. I never understand why, when this government sees 1000 people cheering in our streets for a terroist organization that we just don’t round them all up, and ship them back to the Middle East? These people will become a problem one day, in the not too distant future! Count on it!! They will be taking up guns against us! And blowing things up. It’s in their crazy-ass blood. No man (or woman) can serve two masters. I’m sick, and tired of the politically correct bull#@*t!!! Encircle Dearbornistan, seach door to door, and I’ll bet you’ll find weapons, bombs, and murderers waiting to strike, as we speak!

    Comment by Herman Williams — August 11, 2006 @ 4:50 am August 11, 2006


  16. “a few seditious idiots in Dearborn” ????

    “more than 15,000 turned out, about half of Dearborn’s Arab community”

    HALF the arab community is more than “a few”.

    Comment by watching — August 11, 2006 @ 5:51 am August 11, 2006


  17. I have yet to see anything on any web site quoting Muslims who are a
    against any of the atrocities (even against each other) committed in Iraq, Beirut or anywhere as a matter
    of fact.
    Now with this latest terror plot in London you guys have another chance
    but no on I know will bet that the “Muslim Community” will condemn the new plots.

    Comment by Tom Renk — August 11, 2006 @ 5:55 am August 11, 2006


  18. This is reminiscent of the activities of the Nazi front German-American Bund in the years leading up to WWII. Once we were at war, of course, the Bund was no longer allowed to operate and its leaders were jailed or interned.

    Comment by pst314 — August 11, 2006 @ 6:17 am August 11, 2006


  19. Yeah, but this couln’t possibly spill over into real violence. I mean, it’s not like
    someone’s gone into a Jewish center in an American city and started shooting, or anything
    like that.

    Oh, wait.

    Comment by Ixman — August 11, 2006 @ 6:52 am August 11, 2006


  20. […] At least half of Dearborn, MI’s Muslims fully support Hezbollah and genocide against Jews. Posted by Ian S. in […]

    Pingback by Inoperable Terran » That’s pleasant — August 11, 2006 @ 7:09 am August 11, 2006


  21. There is no such thing as a “moderate” Muslim and all the
    politically correct thinking in the world is not going to
    create them. They all have 3rd century mindsets because
    Islam is a 3rd century “religion” of criminality and hate
    created by a fanatical warlord called Mohammed who ginned
    up hatred so he could propagandize his followers to become
    fighters for his causes. Muslims have no use for nor no
    concept of “freedom” and they sooner we realize that, the
    better off all of us will be. All Muslims should be
    deported from the U.S. for national security reasons and
    none should be allowed into this country for any reason.

    Comment by Carole — August 11, 2006 @ 7:21 am August 11, 2006


  22. If you do’t like what how this country is ran then get out.

    Comment by paul hass — August 11, 2006 @ 7:33 am August 11, 2006


  23. Why is a free country called a free country? What does ‘free’ actually mean? Is there a plot against America? Who will be the Arab Charles A. Lindbergh? Do muscles bring a solution any closer? Why are almost all religions contamined and misused by their practitioners? Questions galore.

    Dismantling the Middle East conflict asks deep analysis and patience. Dismantling the Dearborn Arabs asks education and perspective. Dismantling the conservative voice asks internationalism and guidance. Opinions galore.

    Look back. Empires come to an end when they are overstretched. Terrorists and fifth collumnists existed through the whole history. Problem is we can no longer except relativism. We want a solution now. That is impossible.

    Comment by George Knight — August 11, 2006 @ 8:29 am August 11, 2006


  24. […] What do the radical Muslims in this country really think? From the Federalist Journal, we have this article: “Americans” for Hezbollah. Here’s a snippet Osama Siblani runs the Arab-American News, America’s largest such newspaper. He says the fighting is fueling anger in his community — not at Hezbollah, but at the Bush administration. […]

    Pingback by southchild » Blog Archive » We Don’t CAIR — August 11, 2006 @ 9:38 am August 11, 2006


  25. You do not, and likely will not see Islamic rejection of the Hezbollah principals of destroy Israel and Christianity for one basic reason. They are the rejected race of people. They know this. They despise this. History tells us repeatedly, God rejected the father of all Islamic people, Ishamael. The non-Jewish but non Islamic people were also rejected, but never despised God for the rejection as Islam has grown to do. They created an entire faith system based on getting even, and destroying what God created. When God allowed the non-Jew to be accepted into his grace, the Islamic principals would not allow the Muslims to accept this grace, forever pitting them against God himself. We are now witnessing the culmination of that hate, planning, and revenge. Get used to it. Muslims will never speak out against those they feel are getting even, on their behalf no less.

    Comment by G Bauchmoyer — August 11, 2006 @ 1:40 pm August 11, 2006


  26. Damn my bllod boils after having read this..when will American people awaken ? Is now not the time where we orginize against radical islam and take their war to them ? Or do we need another MAJOR terorist attack to strike the american people before we awaken ? I say we unite and give these radical muslims a taste of their own medicine…every day I feel myself getting stronger and stronger in my convictions against Radical Islam…which just so happends to be a vast majority of them…not a minority like the Media would like you to think.

    Time we replace the US president with a normal person someone that will take matters into their own hands and deal with these people the way we need to.

    Comment by abk — August 11, 2006 @ 2:15 pm August 11, 2006


  27. The good that people do for each other is the only way for all people to prosper. Not bombs, bullets, or distruction. I fear for your children and mine. Hatred is powerful and moves mountains. Moving the heart, mind, nd soul requires greater power.

    Comment by Russell McElroy — August 11, 2006 @ 7:36 pm August 11, 2006


  28. Mr. McElroy, would you take action to protect your children or only speak words in a vain and futile effort to convince the Islamic fascists among us, and throughout the world, that your infidel ass is worth sparing? Your heart, mind, and soul are only targets for them to cut out, chop off, and piss on. They are laughing at you and plotting the death of your children. You may be okay with that, I’m not.

    Comment by cranky — August 12, 2006 @ 6:31 am August 12, 2006


  29. I am very scared for my future and, more importantly, for my daughter’s future as an American in America. Over the past year I have begun to investigate how I might leave the U.S. if necessary. It is staggering to me that I have come to such a point. What we’re seeing in the U.S. now is akin to pro-Hitler rallies. What makes our demonstrations even worse is that they are filled with Jewish grandchildren and great-grandchildren of Holocoaust survivors. Brilliant! The Jews of America are helping the Hezbollah’s achieve its Final Solution (the destruction of Israel, Jews, America, the West, and then everyone on the face of the Earth who isn’t a fundamentalist Muslim…and if the world gets destroyed in the process, so be it. Martyrdom in the name of Allah is the ultimate action).

    Comment by Joan Lopez — August 12, 2006 @ 4:25 pm August 12, 2006


  30. I bet there are many Americans of non-Arab derivation who have no problems with Hezbollah or Muslims. And see that the Zionists who have way too much influence over US foreign policy are the real problem. And this constant demonization of Arabs and Muslims serves only one purpose-to get Americans so worked up that they fail to see the harm that the US government’s foreign policy is doing to our image in the world. Anyone who really thinks that Arabs and Muslims were the real cuprits behind 9/11 would do well to question the “official” story and check out alternative sources of information.

    Comment by T Paine — August 14, 2006 @ 2:55 pm August 14, 2006


  31. Anyone who really thinks that Arabs and Muslims were not the real culprits behind 9/11 would do well to take off their tinfoil hat, stop smoking whatever they’re smoking, and seek a good psychiatric evaluation.

    Comment by The Editors — August 14, 2006 @ 5:38 pm August 14, 2006


  32. The issue is Christianity. What has made America cohesive is that we are Christian.
    Lots of different types of Christians, but nevertheless Christian. Our freedoms imminate from our Christian biblical beliefs, biblically inspired legal system, our societal norms have been set by the Christian mindset. If you close your eyes and envision the globe, and mentally compare how the people in Christian nations lives as opposed to nations of historically other religions, you can see the impact of Christianity. I heard a muslim journalist on C-Span say that muslims in the 1970’s decided that they would invade the west, have children there, make them citizens and bring their enemies down from within their own nations. I have never heard one American journalist respond to this rather open muslim jounalistic statement. We are placing futuring generations of Christian America at risk if we do not crush political correctness and use the tool of deportation right now. Jesus said, “…if you are not with me, then you are against me”.

    Comment by Braveheart — August 14, 2006 @ 9:16 pm August 14, 2006


  33. Yeah, uh, Braveheart, you need to go back and read your Bible again. Jesus never said, “…If you are not with me, then you are against me”, but RATHER said, “He who is not against us is for us”, referring to an attempt on the part of his disciples to stop a man from healing someone of a disease in the name of Jesus. And as for your Christian America “fact”, that’s not true. The Founding Fathers were mostly Universalists or Deists, not Christians; very few, in fact, were Christian (most of those who were Christians came from the South–go figure). Our freedoms did not emminate from “Christian beliefs” either. Those who first settled in America, who came for reasons of religious persecution, were intolerant of those of other faiths, especially if they were Christians of different traditions or denominations; Roger Williams was the only Christian I know of from colonial history who allowed Catholics and Jews to settle in his Puritan-Baptist colony (and he was hated by the other colonies for doing so). The thinkers responsible for writing the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution had been students of political thought; they had read much of what had come out of political experiments in the Midieval Era and they asked themselves, “If we were able to do it all over again, start a nation from scratch, what would it look like?” So as good as your glorified Christian nation sounds, it doesn’t exist and it has never existed. It’s only the Fundamentalist Christian Movement who has become more outspoken.

    Comment by Believer — August 19, 2006 @ 7:58 pm August 19, 2006


  34. Believer,

    The influence of Judeo-Christian ideals on American history and culture from the foundation of this nation is undeniable. Both you and “Braveheart” have overstated your case.

    http://www.federalistjournal.com/ref/quotes1.php

    Comment by The Editors — August 20, 2006 @ 7:59 am August 20, 2006


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